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Publicity Neepery Part the Last: Wrap Up


(the previous publicity neep is behind these words).

Just because it took me a while to write this up and post it doesn't mean it's especially profound. I am far, far from an expert on this stuff, and everybody's experiences and expectations are different.

So I'll leave you with a few thoughts and invite you to add yours in the comments.

--For the author every part of the publishing process, from writing, to submitting, to the agent hunt, to launching the book, is potentially fraught with angst. The thing about book publicity that makes it perhaps the most angst-provoking is that the process, as the author sees it, is so opaque. Authors try to decode how the publishing house feels about a book from the kind of publicity effort it's given. Sometimes the author feels like she's on the outside looking in, losing control of a piece of work in which she's invested her whole self. The author's editor and publicist and agent are professionals; they know how things work. Authors often don't even know the right questions to ask.

--From a friend's email (reproduced here with permission), taking issue with my first publicity neep post:

All of us on the lower spectrum of publishing work our butts off promoting. And we don't stay out of the way. You stay out of the way, you are forgotten. We email reviews back to the publicity department, we make our own reviewer lists, we organize our own contests, we do all this insanely time-consuming crap, which I completely hate, because we know that no matter how much marketing and publicity loves us, they are working with a tiny budget alloted by a very profit-conscious publisher.

This friend and I disagree about the efficacy of this kind of effort, but as she pointed out in the same email, my own situation is not typical. She is worried: Because your average $5,000 advance newbie authors will read [your post] and expect the works and won't do the promo on their own, and then will suffer for it.

--A counterpoint, from another friend's email:

So I can't decide whether to blog about this or not but one of the saddest things at [a recent] conference was the sight of 30+ authors sitting behind tables and stacks of their books for the mass book signing [...] and no one buying them. All the [authors] in their best clothes, in a hallway far off the main lobby, and you've got your [...] other reputably published authors mixed in with the self-published or micro-published with no way to tell the difference. All of the authors had big smiles and autographing pens and little candies on their tables [...] along with bookmarks, flyers, tchotchkes, etc, all the little marketing trinkets that I find mostly useless. All pert and ready to talk to the readers who never come.

So a question. If the author does her own publicity, and she is an amateur (that is, not a professional publicity person), how does she distinguish herself from the self-published and vanity published authors who probably spend more time selling themselves than working on their writing? How does her effort make a difference to how her book does? How does she reach her readers?

--I think it's important to examine the truisms of book publicity. Like the one about publishing houses not doing enough to promote their books. Maybe not every book is getting a lead title push, but the publicity team might be doing the most they can, in their professional capacity, to push the book into the hands of its "fit audience".

--If the author hates schmoozing and giving away tchotchkes and spending her own money on publicity, then wouldn't her time be better spent writing? A very highly respected author I know via a listserv, who has also been an agency professional, says that the best thing an author can do for her career is not publicity, but writing the next book.

--That said, every author might augment her publicity team's push as much as she feels is right for her. In the comments to the first neep post, other authors pointed out that they do only what they feel comfortable doing. So maybe that's the answer. If the author feels comfortable handing out bookmarks and stopping to sign stock at every bookstore she encounters, then maybe that's what she should do. If she likes going to conventions and setting up readings, then maybe she should. Will these things make a difference to her career? I have no idea. I guess the trick is finding the right balance.

Seroiusly, I hope you'll add your thoughts on this.




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(Anonymous)
2008-04-06 02:45 pm UTC (link)
The only thing publicity can do is make the reader aware that you exist. Once they buy the book, your writing is going to have to sell the rest of your novels.

I went to a con last year and listened to an author give a fascinating workshop. We met later that afternoon and she recognized me from the audience. She grabbed me by the arm and put a stack of promo materials from her books in my hands. We chatted for a little while and I promised to buy a book.

I bought one of her books in good faith. (She is multi-published and quite well known in the fantasy genre.) Naturally, I expected to love the story. Imagine my surprise when I discovered it was such a dreary read. I can't say enough nice things about this author. She was kind and helpful and fun to talk to--but I did not like her writing.

So in the end, promoting one's self can only do so much. The writing has to carry you the rest of the way. I agree that the best promotion you can do is write the next book--the best book you can write.

Maria
www.mariazannini.blogspot.com

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[info]sarah_create
2008-04-06 03:02 pm UTC (link)
I believe an author needs to examine her limited resources of time and money as she chooses what efforts she should put into publicity.

A typical author will not have a business background and might not be business savvy. What is the rate of return on each possible type of publicity effort? A publishing company will have a hard time quantifying this and it will be impossible for an author to run the needed statistical analysis.

My opinion. I believe a website is important, but have no idea if it helps sell books. Beyond that, an author should do what she enjoys doing.
I agree with part of your friend's email: If an author is not front and center on the radar screen of their publisher, she should let the publishing department know about great reviews, encourage reviews of her books and grant interviews.

The majority of an author's time and efforts should be writing her next book.

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[info]lkmadigan
2008-04-06 03:12 pm UTC (link)
My only thought is that this is all extremely fascinating and helpful.

Oh, and that my comfort zone is sitting in my chair, writing. But I will lever myself out when the time comes. I realize my publisher will expect some level of promotion from me.

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[info]sarah_prineas
2008-04-06 07:56 pm UTC (link)
I realize my publisher will expect some level of promotion from me.

They probably will! I figure if the publisher asks for it, doing it is probably a good idea...

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[info]squirrel_monkey
2008-04-06 03:14 pm UTC (link)
I'm published by an indie press. The main promo the publisher did was sending out tons of review copies. I did very little to supplement that -- an occasional interview when asked, suggest a few bloggers who should get copies, etc. Contests and bookmarks -- not so much, and I'm not convinced they are effective.

I heard the idea that people who are not on lead title of a large conglomerate should be doing tons of promotion, but I am not convinced of that. Writers pushing themselves quickly become annoying (see Amazon forums), but other people pushing a book create a word of mouth. (Of course, writer's blog and website are helpful as well.)

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[info]sarah_prineas
2008-04-06 04:04 pm UTC (link)
...other people pushing a book create a word of mouth.

And your book is a great example of that.

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[info]rosefox
2008-04-06 03:44 pm UTC (link)
I work with publicists a lot, and believe me, there are some good publicists and some terrible publicists out there. Some of it is about funding, but some is just about people who do their jobs well vs. people who don't. Sometimes editorial conspires as well; I just called up the publicists at a fairly major SF press to ask why we'd gotten galleys almost too late to review, and the woman I spoke with said that the editors consistently get galleys in late, no matter how often she explains that they need to come in sooner.

I agree with anti-DRM activists that an author's worst enemy is obscurity. I think authors should do everything they can to make their names familiar to readers (preferably in a positive context). Of course the best way to get word-of-mouth is to write a really great book that people recommend to their friends, but it's also possible to do blog tours, convention appearances, and workshops that establish you as someone to pay attention to, and I think it's advisable to focus some attention there no matter how much publicity you get from your publisher. This series of posts may do more to establish the Sarah Prineas brand than any ad package. *)

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[info]sarah_prineas
2008-04-06 03:58 pm UTC (link)
Heh, that's funny. I was thinking throughout the week of neepery that I don't consider my blog to be a publicity tool...

Though I know for some writers it can be. But at this point most of my blog readers are also writers, and though I love the community they're not really my target audience as a writer.

That's interesting about the good and bad publicists. The lack of time and personnel seems to be endemic to publishing. I've heard publicists burn out quickly; mine certainly seems to work long hours.

Q: What is "anti-DRM activists"?

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[info]rosefox
2008-04-06 04:04 pm UTC (link)
DRM = digital rights management. Usually refers to copy-protection encoded into digital media, like e-books or mp3s. DRM advocates say that it protects intellectual property. People opposed to DRM say that it keeps people from spreading the word about your work.

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[info]wldhrsjen3
2008-04-06 04:00 pm UTC (link)
Right now I'm mainly just worried about *finishing* my wip, let alone selling it - so perhaps I'm out of place adding a comment. But I do have to say that I positively dread trying to promote a book. I enjoy meeting people, but I'm pretty shy and the idea of putting myself out there like that is - frankly - terrifying. So, should I get to the point where such things become necessary, it is going to be very, very difficult for me. I like to think that my writing will one day be strong enough on its own to sell my stories, but I realize that is unlikely without some publicity. Your posts have given me some ideas of things to consider, and I really appreciate it.

That said, I also have to add that in my own personal book-buying experience, the *best* promotion is a kind, friendly personality *and a good book!* Since joining LJ, I have bought more than a dozen books simply because I had read the author's LJ posts and liked them. Silly? Maybe. But it prompted me to buy books I would never have seen otherwise, and in return I help spread the word.

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[info]anghara
2008-04-06 04:59 pm UTC (link)
That alone makes a blog-type presence seem worthwhile. One is limited by a number of things - geographical factors, financial factors, personality type - in terms of how much direct in-person interaction with the public one is capable of organising and putting into practice. On a blog, however, you're already interacting with readers simply by virtue of being out there on the Web - and for every one that you might know, even in passing, there might be a complete stranger who hears about you from somebody who HAS read you and decides to check out your blog, or else simply trips over it by accident and likes what's there and sticks around to read more (and possibly decides to read even more by taking a chance on a previously unknown author's books).

So I think I'll keep blogging... [grin]

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[info]angie_frazier
2008-04-06 09:06 pm UTC (link)
I do think an online presence is essential for an author, a blog, a MySpace page, etc. It gets the author's name and writing out there. But I agree with the many comments here that writing the best possible book is the most important thing a writer can do with his/her time. A great book will gain the attention it deserves.

On another note, Sarah, thanks for this series! Each post has been fascinating and educational. I'm really looking forward to reading your book, too!

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[info]sarah_prineas
2008-04-06 09:36 pm UTC (link)
Thanks, Angie! I'm glad you found it useful.

I agree with the internet presence, for those who like to do that kind of thing. I won't do MySpace, which I hate with a white-hot boiling passionate heat, ugh.

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[info]angie_frazier
2008-04-06 10:16 pm UTC (link)
To be completely honest, I have a MySpace page but I haven't done anything with it for months and months. I found it more like email with avatars that everyone can view. I much prefer LJ! Much more of a community.

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Comment from Laurel Snyder who LJ would not allow to post, stupid LJ
[info]sarah_prineas
2008-04-06 09:39 pm UTC (link)
Laurel says:

I basically agree with you on efficacy-- that there's no way small-push DIY efforts can have a massive effect the way that floor displays, tours and ads in the Times will push a BIG title onto the bestseller list. But it's really important to remember that there are other reasons to do it.

DIY efforts can inspire/ energize/ feed an author who is otherwise not getting much daily excitement out of being a new author. With a small title, sometimes the book comes out with a whimper, and the author feels like, "Well, okay-- now what?" When I put out my anthology (on indie press) I was astounded that I WAS able to get myself onto local public radio and the FOX morning show and so on. I wrote Op Eds in national papers, guest blogged in international press, etc. I set up my own tiny tour and traveled and had a blast, sleeping on couches.

And while my little book didn't pay gobs of cash, it DID earn out its tiny advance, go into a second printing, and make its way into libraries and even some universities. All of that was largely due to my own DIY energy, and that felt so good! When a publicist says it isn't "worth it" they're referring to the bottom line. But it might be "worth it" simply for the fun of meeting people, connecting with other writers, laying groundwork for the next book, etc.

Also, a side note-- as someone who has worked with tiny indies, mid-size indies, and major houses, I'll say that what is "worth it" differs from tier to tier. My novel is coming out from a major house, and by Random House standards, it isn't worth it to do big promotion for me at BEA and so on. Because they're measuring me against Junie B. Jones. But my indie picture book is coming out around the same time, and I AM going to BEA for that, because by Tricycle standards I have a shot at good sales.

All so baffling. But fun if you let it be!

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Re: Comment from Laurel Snyder who LJ would not allow to post, stupid LJ
[info]sarah_prineas
2008-04-06 09:40 pm UTC (link)
That's

http://laurelsnyder.com

In case you're interested.

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[info]hkneale
2008-04-07 05:28 pm UTC (link)
Publicity is all about brand awareness.

I attended the World Horror Con last weekend and we had a mass autograph session.

There were some Seriously Impressive Published writers (BNAs in their fields, but not the world) there who simply sat there and signed the books that came their way, and there were MLAs who had some promo stuff and signed books that came their way, but also had books for sale, and then there were the Indies and Self-pubs who were doing all they could to promo their stuff (yes, tchotchkes and candy and kitchen sinks) and with plenty of books on their tables, including buy-one-get-one-free dealies.

The Indies and Self-pubs at the bottom of the food chain struck me as desperately trying to sell books, rather than promote a brand. And granted, while the bottom line is to sell more books, I kept getting the impression that they were going about it the wrong way.

(Now, it might have just been the situation, but they were trying to compete, mostly unsuccessfully, with the hundred other writers there.)

Now all the push there was on, "This is my book! This is my book!" instead of, "This is my hook." Not a single one of the signers thought to hook potential readers/buyers on how interesting the book was.

There was no way I was going to buy a hundred books. I might buy one, but it would have to be because of those hundred books, that was the one that would interest me the most.

Some day I will find myself in a mass autograph session and already I've started thinking about what I can do to not just try and sell books, but promote brand awareness and make my book more interesting than the other ninety-nine available. I do not want to appear desperate for people to buy my book because, from the other side of the relationship, it just appears desperate.

So now that I've been thinking, I agree that to market something, first it's got to be good.

Second, brand awareness must be established. Now, the clincher is that it's not so much letting people know the book exists, but that it's good. Word-of-mouth, in all its forms, is the best way to do this.

So far, that's what I've figured. The tricky bit is figuring out what works best as a word-of-mouth promo tactic.

Like [info]wldhrsjen3 said earlier, having the author "accessible" (whether book tours or on the Internet) can really help in brand promo. If an author appears interesting, then there's a good chance their book might be interesting also, and I will check it out.

Yeah. Definitely an internet presence, especially in the form of forums or blogs can help. That is the primary reason I set up an LJ--to connect with people and promote myself.

No, I don't have a book out at the moment, but that doesn't mean I can't start promoting my brand now. I'm hoping (to a greater rather than lesser degree) my peeps will hear I have a book out and I hope that I've established my brand well enough that they'll think, "Oh, Heidi's interesting. I'll go check out her book."

I've bought the books of people I've encountered on the Internet and found interesting. I haven't had the same experience that Maria had (and hope I never do). In my experience, people who are interesting to me generally write books that are interesting to me. Not sure why that is.

Okay, have I rambled on long enough? Maybe I should go do my own post on my own blog. You've certainly inspired me on this topic.

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[info]bondgwendabond
2008-04-07 08:02 pm UTC (link)
Basically: It all comes down to word of mouth. And, you know, publishers don't have a magic formula for this stuff either. We all hear about flops all the time, and they use the same strategies for those, and sometimes they're even really good books.

Perhaps not quite as much for children's books, but independent booksellers can be HUGE for books that don't have a ton of publicity dollars behind them... in children's books, librarians and teachers are the big mouths (and indie booksellers too, certainly). There are a lot of books that wind up getting noticed that don't have big publicity pushes behind them, and sometimes it's because of the author's efforts and sometimes it's not. There are certainly cases where authors being thought well of in general can help with getting the word of mouth going.

Never discount the power of goodwill among other writers (and all types of publishing people), I guess I'm saying. Or the good taste of writers and other people in publishing, and their own constant conversations about what's good and what's coming out...

I should probably do a post, because none of this was even most of what I was going to say. Anyway, sure, I agree that writers who are going to spend time and energy and money self-promoting should really think and be smart about how they do it. But I actually do think it can be effective, if approached in creative ways, at helping build a career. There are a lot of new opportunities out there. The playing field is substantially different than it was even 10 years ago, but most of publishing still operates largely the same way it has since forever.

And I have to agree with Rose Fox that publicists vary wildly in quality and follow-up. Witness Colleen Mondor's post the other day about even getting requested review copies. Writers need to at least be aware of what their houses are and aren't doing, so they can make an informed decision about their publicity game plan. (And anyone could do worse than checking out MJ Rose's many posts on the topic... she believes--from her marketing background--that most book publicity actually starts way later than it should. Much later than it would for any other sort of "product.")

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[info]ckastens
2008-04-07 10:33 pm UTC (link)
Thank you so much for all these great posts! This was a great thread, very interesting. (The only reason I haven't written more is because of a big business trip I had the last few days)

I think the "do whatever your comfortable with" is almost right. I would modify it to "do whatever makes you happy". If sitting at a table and signing one book in an hour makes you depressed that more people didn't come, don't do it. If signing one book in an hour makes you thrilled that one more person is going to read your work, go for it. That's just one example, of course, but I think it gets across the idea.

I personally sit on the side of the getting every new reader possible, within the limits of my free time. Of course, for a career writer, there is a time/return equation that must be taken into account.

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